This explains a lot right here regarding why he posted that video. I think Tibor left him:
Also: Lloyd Evans believes in the “innocent until proven guilty” principle. But when he decides to sue, he’ll label you as a criminal defendant.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
This explains a lot right here regarding why he posted that video. I think Tibor left him:
Also: Lloyd Evans believes in the “innocent until proven guilty” principle. But when he decides to sue, he’ll label you as a criminal defendant.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence he’s going after everyone’s content about him. There’s a reason why he mentioned his friends watching Jake’s video.
A story like his has a tendency to go viral, especially with LE being a fairly noticeable expat in Zagreb organizing open mic nights, karaoke, and his stand-up routine.
All it takes is one person watching it, and then he’s known as the guy who tanked his 15 year marriage to go to Thailand and had been seeing hookers for years in Croatia.
What if he had his eyes on a particular woman and she turned him down after a friend kindly referred her to the video, knowing Lloyd was quite interested in her? Lloyd’s pool of potential matches there is limited. Must speak English and I doubt he wants anyone his age. Good job, game to give, can’t be broke with a gang of kids.
Did we just cock-block Lloyd in Zagreb for good?
Could explain why he’s taking another break.
Wouldn’t it be funny if he tries to re-invent himself in Moldova?
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Regarding his explanation of what happened in Thailand, let’s remember this:
He cheated on his wife when he dated a sex worker.
He then cheated on his wife and the sex worker he was dating with the on-sex worker woman/girl/ladyboy who was sitting on his lap in the pic.
Finally, he cheated on his wife, the sex worker he was dating, & the non-sex worker on his lap with other sex workers.
He can’t keep his story straight. He’s like the mafia adjacent guy in the mob movie who thinks he’s being a wise guy with the cops but is instead providing them clues.
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I honestly think tibor resigned
I think so too. As Lloyd said, the begging campaign was only a spike, and there were probably earlier conversations about Tibor reaping some of the benefit. Then Lloyd started losing patrons again and dropped below 620 - his claimed number that he said needed to keep Tibor employed. He probably told him he dropped below 620 again and really couldn’t afford him in order to cut off requests for a raise.
I think it's likely Lloyd saw his high patron numbers as unsustainable so told Tibor he'd need to take a pay cut.
I also think this is true. Tibor saw the spike and how much money Lloyd personally pocketed. Then it came down again and he came to the conclusion that this wasn’t a stable job and Lloyd was never going to give him any significant raise.
He also said he’s now “just one” and it’s curious he never mentioned Dijana is no longer an employee. Somehow I don’t think this is “mutual”, otherwise he would have been bringing up her losing her job as a real tragedy as he did before. I wonder what she thinks about Ipsilon being dissolved since she is a director and representative of the company. I’d expect a payout. Only way to get what’s truly her cut is through divorce court. If she lets him dissolve this and go solo and there is no divorce petition filed, she’s letting him skip with what is lawfully hers and her children’s assets.
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I’ve finally watched the entire video. I’ve seen this man and how he behaves for almost as long as he’s been out. Never have I seen him more bitter and angry than in this video. It’s highly likely he edited out his more testy rants. Contrary to what I was led to believe at first, this man isn’t leaving. If anyone believes that, someone here was selling iceberg chips from Antarctica.
Money - He’s quite proud of how much he has funded. He mentions the amount of patrons and the “tens of thousands” in the Ipsilon coffers as higher than any exJW has attained. He even implies that Mark O’Donnell has hundreds waiting for him if he just gives his tax ID to Lloyd‘s accountant.
Jake - He spent an inordinate amount of time on Jake and he would have done himself well to cut down his Jake clips for reasons of pacing. It got boring and the video slogged down at that point. Why single out Jake? His video was one of the better ones and brutally honest, not to mention actually fair to Lloyd on many points. He wanted to point to Jake’s confession video and selectively edit it to make it sound like he should have defended Lloyd. Which if you watched that entire video, you’d know how different in tone it was to anything Lloyd confessed to.
Which brings me to the point of this post. Lloyd, I have a confession to make. Remember in your Things Are Bad video where you make mention of the owner of a wine bar you frequent telling you someone informed them they should not associate with you? That’s not factually correct and I think you purposely misrepresented that. When I was corresponding with Irena I made it clear that she should know the background of the people she allows to organise open mic events at her establishment.
I told her that you informed the world you had no mastery of your penis and this might be of concern for her female patrons.
Along with your livestream, I gave her the link to Jake’s video. I also told her that your friends, especially if they might be female, might be interested in the content.
I’m afraid that might be why your friends knew about and watched Jake’s video.
People come and go, but the truth always shines through.
You have my confession. Tell Irena she’s welcome if you bump into her.
In vino veritas
“Anja”
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How long until Tibor does a tell-all video or forum postTibor is welcome to. Especially if there is a dispute regarding pay.
It always smells better outside Jabba the Hutt’s palace than inside it.
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Tibor is gone, he’s shutting down Ipsilon and he seems to be scaling down and/or headed in a different direction.
This is huge.
Down 4 patrons in like 10 minutes when this video dropped.
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who knows if he would have made a video in Thailand
I believe he would have and for the same reason why he went live so quickly in Croatia. 890 patrons plus all the private donations he was getting was earning him six figures and that’s too much money to leave to chance. It’s why he said he was “forced” to.
He had many reasons to prevent the divorce, and he mentioned one in his letter to his wife in that it would “disrupt” his work grift.
A divorce also would have forced him to split the matrimonial assets and pay out spousal and child support.
If I had access to the court system there, I would search for the following:
Was a divorce petition filed by either party?
Was a joint petition filed?
If so, was it withdrawn? Pending? Finalised?
We know he’s greedy but there could be another factor behind these begging stunts.
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I called bullshit before on him "dating" a sex worker and I'll call bullshit again.
Since he keeps bringing it up like it’s a secret society or something and calling people stupid for not understanding how it works, it’s a subject worth revisiting. I agree with Derek that it’s a hastily concocted cover story to conjure up a seemingly consensual relationship instead of the sex-for-hire that he really was involved with.
For context, I present a pic of Lloyd on the beach in Thailand during this time he dated a sex worker:
Now look at the scene he lays down for Dijana after she tells him she is going to divorce him. This has to be one of the oddest ways to convince a wife who is divorcing you to stay in the marriage, but here goes:
The “hotel maid” pictures you referenced were taken with Cara (pronounced “Sara”) who is, at least to my knowledge, not a hotel maid. One of the rare enjoyable moments during my trip was spent with her and her friends. We met for dinner, ate some street food, had some drinks, and played some pool at the bar. All the while she was flirting with me - holding my hand, touching my leg, letting me put my arm around her. Then after walking her back to her hotel with her friends we parted ways
So for someone there for the scuba, here he admits seeing Cara and her friends was actually a highlight of his trip. So we are to believe that the man pictured above, with ill-fitting sunglasses because his face is so fat, “dated” someone named Cara who was dressed as a hotel maid. He knew his date so well that he wasn’t sure if she was a hotel maid in real life, but guessed that she wasn’t. She also held his hand and flirted with him.
Her friends also desired a night out with Lloyd Evans. They were perfectly fine playing tag-along with Lloyd and Cara on their date.
And he wants us to believe that.
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Take note patroners - as soon as you are no longer useful to Lloyd or doing something for him (like sending him regular chunks of your pay-check), he'll turn on you.
This is what really stood out from the latest eruption of Mt. Evans. The man says he’s running a business, so run it like a business! What you had here was a customer who complained that she was ripped off by a pushy salesman who sold her an inferior product.
What does he do? He flips out on the customer in front of everyone in the store, calling her names and using her JW past to attack her as if he were not an ELDER for a year.
This is why he cannot work a job. He has zero self awareness and people skills.
“Lloyd, the reports were due yesterday. What’s your ETA?”
”Well Bob from accounting seldom gets his in on time. Do you ever get on him like you do me? This is causing an enormous amount of stress to me, my daughters, their new dog and my estranged wife. You are being judgmental!”
That's his best ad hominem attack, that people are using fake names on twitter
Here’s the thing: no one asked him to ever use his real name. He came out as “Lloyd Evans” because he wanted all the fame being attributed to him. Now he uses it as a method of attack.
Tell me again why he should be the guy that exiting JWs go to?